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Erica Dusette
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Posted - 2014.06.16 21:32:00 -
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Been there, tried it (and still have some alts dedicated to it gathering dust) and I found it just .... meh.
Suicide ganking got stale for me after the first few hits. It feels one-dimensional, for lack of a better term. Like throwing a ball into a bucket - you either get it in the bucket or you don't. Ganking with dozens, hundreds of people, sure it would be a lot more complex (unless you're talking about an iSboxer) to orchestrate but at the end of the day it's still 200 people just tossing a ball into a bucket. Wow.
Then again some people spend all their EVE time mining, or just trading, or doing missions and to me those all seem similarly stale as a career in suicide ganking would. Each to their own. If you enjoy it then go do it. And no, I don't think it's "becoming a problem" as the OP asks, least not anymore of a problem than it's ever been in the past.
John E Normus wrote:It is a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing. Such a little thing. ~ Boromir, LOTR
Is it actually a thing now to quote LOTR characters? lool
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Posted - 2014.06.16 21:42:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Neither is 'take fleet warp, orbit anchor, asign drones'.
The hardest part for most people is aligning before the fleet warp.
There's always a few plebs left behind.
/guilty 
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Posted - 2014.06.16 21:54:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Neither is 'take fleet warp, orbit anchor, asign drones'. The hardest part for most people is aligning before the fleet warp. There's always a few plebs left behind. /guilty I'd bump you out of alignment on purpose, then warp some other place just you & me.
Thankfully I equip my Tengus with the warp speed subystem. So even though I'm often last to warp I'm still the first to land, much to my delight everyone else's frustration.
So with that in mind, just gimme a bump anytime, and I'll be waiting on grid when you land. 
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:01:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Neither is 'take fleet warp, orbit anchor, asign drones'. The hardest part for most people is aligning before the fleet warp. There's always a few plebs left behind. /guilty I'd bump you out of alignment on purpose, then warp some other place just you & me. I would do the same. Erica's corpse would look fine in my collection :)
Yeah, some corpmates were trying to get me to suicide all my characters and sell them a full set the other evening.
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:33:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:John E Normus wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:
As John already said earlier in this thread, the key is a permit for only 10 million ISK per year which allows you to operate in New Order space as long as you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct (a.k.a. the law of Highsec).
**** the CODE. If you do nothing else in highsec, ignore these people and their posturing. hahahaha CODE. is a pretty funny joke, I agree. If you people would get on with the ganking and stop with the stupid ass RP posturing, we'd all be better off. Whether you agree with it or not, this "RP posturing" is what gives them their strength and unity.
Yup. Heaven forbid any creativity in EVE extending beyond the clicking of buttons.
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Posted - 2014.06.17 01:02:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:Harsh but effective...Your choice to pirate in HIGH has consequences. Risk vs. Reward is achieved!
What about those of us who've never hurt a fly in highsec, but like to shoot first in lowsec. 
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Posted - 2014.06.17 01:08:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Vigilant wrote:Harsh but effective...Your choice to pirate in HIGH has consequences. Risk vs. Reward is achieved!
What about those of us who've never hurt a fly in highsec, but like to shoot first in lowsec. Same choice was made to pirate I think that is bottom line of what i am saying.
So what you're saying is that because I indulge in consensual PVP with other consensual PVP'ers in low security space I should be banned from areas of HS alltogether?
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Posted - 2014.06.17 01:25:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Vigilant wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Vigilant wrote:Harsh but effective...Your choice to pirate in HIGH has consequences. Risk vs. Reward is achieved!
What about those of us who've never hurt a fly in highsec, but like to shoot first in lowsec. Same choice was made to pirate I think that is bottom line of what i am saying. So what you're saying is that because I indulge in consensual PVP with other consensual PVP'ers in low security space I should be banned from areas of HS alltogether? If you do consensual crimes in reality with others, do you still pay the same price if caught by the cops (i.e. Concord in EVE)? The answer is --- Yes EVE rides a thin line that no one, even CCP, will not address. How to make all the player base happy with what "want" to do in the sandbox we love to play in. But rarely punishes anyone for actions that can't be easily circumvented (in this case high security ganking). And with CCP's changes to freighters, they made them even easier to kill. Better off flying a TP now a days and doing many runs, like the old days (before freighters) assuming you like your stuff in your hanger or in one piece.
Instead of realising your idea is full of gaping holes you're gonna instead try to stick by it and attempt to paint a massive canvas with a very small brush.
It's fine if you hate CODE and hate highsec ganking and other such debauchery. That's obviously your driving force for posting, but your drive begins to lose credibility when you're suggesting an idea which would hamper the fun of many, many legit PVP'ers who fall well and truly outside the grounds of why you're posting here in the first place.
So, are you posting against highsec ganking? Or are you posting for tougher sec status penalties/consequences everywhere, for everyone. Because they're two very different things effecting very different groups of people.
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Posted - 2014.06.17 02:01:00 -
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Vigilant wrote:Erica to answer your question:
Both, cause they are related. We love to tote our sandbox, but rarely point out it has many gaping holes in it.
I do believe security status should play much more on your movement and transactions in EVE. Buying stuff is easy to get around, and I understand that. Your movement on your negative 10 pirate that kills for the sake of it should not be able to enter HS at all. Technically as we all know, negative 5 makes you a target of every Concord Cop, shouldn't they pod you? (again harsh I realize).
You want true R vs. R? Then some actions should weigh a bit more heavily.
I don't mean this offensively, but each of your posts has a very tangible feel of someone who's never seriously gone out and participated in some enjoyable PVP. A few other posters have picked up on this, and I know this too because if you had then you'd know that much of what you're saying is terrible ideas that wouldn't otherwise sit well with you. It's important also to keep in mind that this game is primarily a PVP game. Every update things are tweaked or introduced with the aim of encouraging and fostering PVP encounters in many ways across all regions from HS to null.
The end game here is to blow up each other's spaceships. Everything else is here to facilitate that happening - not to hamper it. Having a low security status, or being a 'flashy red', isn't a 'punishment' and it shouldn't limit people from parts of the universe. What it is, and what it does, is foster even more PVP by making such 'pirates' targets everywhere.
But, back to what we were talking about - My sec status isn't that bad, it hovers around -3. This is due to fights with other PVPers I've started, or joined, in lowsec areas. It's not from ganking haulers or mission runners. But even with my -3 I'm forced to run from the faction police in 0.9 and 1.0 systems and use insta-undocks in trade hubs. And you are saying this is not enough, that the penalty should not vary due to the circumstance of the 'crime' and that I should be completely banned from 0.9 and 1.0 systems.
Please, please tell me you recently purchased that character and haven't actually been playing EVE that long.
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